Honor Cap

[Reavuz]

Well. I wasn't expecting Tab to remove the honor daily/weekly honor cap completely - this gives more incentive for VIPs with full ruthless to spawn camp everyone and it makes it even easier for VIPs to get full ruthless and harder for normal players to not just get ruthless from winning BGs but also they can't get vicious because they are being spawn fucked by VIPs in full ruthless.

I thought Tab was going to increase the honor cap not get rid of it completely...

So. What's your ETA on the arena conquest fix? After that I won't even care about BGs.

[rmp]

I know that ruthless is far from vicious but skill>gear immo , just live with it. After all if you got such a big problem with that , DONATE.

[Sacred]

I agree with Rmp I mean cmon Skill > Gear who cares if those darn VIPs get some ruthless

[Reavuz]

Jan 7, 2013 16:17:38 GMT -5 Sacred said:

I agree with Rmp I mean cmon Skill > Gear who cares if those darn VIPs get some ruthless

Skill only helps in 1v1s, maybe 2s arena, not when you have two skilled ruthless players and a good mage raping you. This brings into question faction balance now - why are all the active VIPs on Alliance?

I'm pretty sure my fellow Hordies in the BG didn't even have full vic and that much of a gear difference would definitely affect a BG. If they had full vicious I assume skill would be the major factor but it wasn't and they aren't VIPs so if you read my original post again - it's going to be 2x harder for them to get vicious now.

If I have to tell my guildies to resort to queuing for Arathi Basin so that we don't get raped by people buying cata and getting ruthless way easier than we ever could then that just goes to show that the... You know what - you guys are right, we'll see how PVP balance turns out with VIPs in ruthless and normal players stuck in bloodthirsty gear.

I'm not even going to argue with Rmp's argument "PAY FOR VIP OR GTFO".

[Anguskhan / Giltain]

Reavnub remember that we do have plans for two different battlegroups. One for BT/Vic and then one for Ruth/Cata in the battlegrounds. This will be implemented soon if we see that normal players do not stand a chance at all.

As to your question of why the active VIPs are Alliance, that is the same reason as why most players in Wrath/Cata are alliance... Humans are overpowered. If you look at the race spread, you will notice 99% of alliance players are human, and just about every single VIP character... is human! We are trying to think of a way to change this without breaking everything. Once we come up with a solution, we will put it to the community to see what everyone thinks. Personally I think it is very unfair for humans to get 2 damage trinkets and not have to worry about a PVP trinket at all... just my opinion. We will also try and make sure the battlegrounds stay balanced. I have watched several where it was 4 Alliance vs 1 Horde. That isn't right either.

[Reavuz]

I didn't know (or remember) about your battlegroups idea! Me gusta mucho.

You could make a post in the news section about what your plans to do with the server are and update it regularly or something.

Thanks for responding and I'm glad that you understand the current state of PVP. Hopefully you guys can do something about those racials and/or faction balance! I have been witness to a fair share of 4 Horde vs 1 Alliance though but in general I think Allys are more population dominant because of the human racial - as you said.

I personally like the idea of removing all racials (but that's just me) although I can see why people wouldn't like that. Just sharing my opinion early for yah.

[Anguskhan / Giltain]

Racials offer a unique gameplay that can be used. The problem with the human racial is that it allows for too much damage. If it was similar to the undead racial (which it may be changed to) then you would still be able to run without a trinket, but you wouldn't be able to remove as much.

[Sacred]

Reavnub, Angus paid me to come horde, So now I have to stay horde fo lyfe RAPE TRAIN BABY

[Anguskhan / Giltain]

Unfortunately for the battlegroup idea, there are hundreds of ways to get around any idea we have come up with. I think I finally know a way to make it work, but it would require tons of work from Fot and Taber. In order for them to put in that work, we would have to see that people play and that it would be used... that being said it probably won't be worked on until we begin an arena season.

[barretbwoy]

1) Omg arena season me and rmp pwn dis shiet kgo. 2) Reavnub idk why you're so sad about the honor cap thing, ive heard u like wintrading rbgs like russianz

[Reavuz]

Jan 8, 2013 5:33:33 GMT -5 barretbwoy said:

1) Omg arena season me and rmp pwn dis shiet kgo. 2) Reavnub idk why you're so sad about the honor cap thing, ive heard u like wintrading rbgs like russianz

Naaaaaaah, I don't wintrade cuz dem bishes don't have a choice when it's 1v1 cuz I keel dem all and besides, I don't do BGs for honor - I do them for the measly 40 conquest you get for winning! =D

[rmp]

Removing the racials will literally ^$@! up the up PvP state. And no i don't agree with you, if me barret daniel kaylee (sacred already went horde) go horde, hordes will dominate bgs. It's not the racial. If you got a prob with racial go play retail , undead is the most powerful race at the time speaking.

[Reavuz]

If it's not the racial then why are you guys all human and if you can find a way to argue with that then tell me - why do you think that removing the racials will mess up the state of PvP if it's "not the racial"?

The only useful racials are from the Blood Elf, Draenei, Human, Undead and Night Elf races which admittedly leaves very few other players of wanting to play any other race. (Goblin/Worgen racials are good as well but they can't mount and Worgen can't actually go into their beast form which puts people off even more).

I think that removing the racials completely will let people play the race they want to play and the bonus of racials aren't ground breaking except for the human "trinket" ability.

I don't agree with Angus because I don't think that racials provide much diversity or uniqueness at all besides the Night Elf stealth before they hit you tactic - different classes and specs provide all the necessary diversity/uniqueness.

But I'm going to emphasise once more that this is just my opinion.

Edit reason: typo

[rmp]

Wow wow, lets stand at that. the fact that we play HUMAN gives a boost on OFFENSE. BUT you become more SQUISHY also other RACIALS are GOOD, NE gives me a resteath apart vanish , orc dance with trinket + racial is sick as monkey ,i just dont like orcs, BE is very useful , dwarf is r1 choice for rshaman and all heals in general, but its ugly. I agree that human has slight advantage but its all on the player. The moment you get that you will stop being bothered from "irrelative" stuff. Also where is the dif between no cap and raised cap if he just resets it after a couple of days, doesnt make a damn dif , maybe 1 week faster or no, so the post is totally dumb for me.

[barretbwoy]

I only play alliance coz the chicks are hawt